These days, it can feel like the world is unraveling. But what if collapse isn’t the end — but the beginning of a new story?
In this episode, long-view change steward Stephanie Nestlerode joins us to explore memory as medicine, learning as survival, and the sacred role of community in what comes next.
For those seeking clarity in chaos — welcome.
In this third episode, I’m joined by Stephanie Nestlerode of 7th Generation Labs—a systems thinker, wisdom keeper, and steward of the teachings of many, including Paula Underwood and Grandmother Tu Moonwalker. Our conversation explores how individuals and communities can move through transition with integrity.
In Episode 2, Denise Hopkins brought us into the body as a site of becoming—for those of us swimming the in-between.
Episode 3 invites us to widen our gaze:
What happens when the threshold is collective?
When it’s not just one life unraveling, but the scaffolding of whole systems, whole communities?
Sometimes what we need most at the edge of such thresholds isn’t a roadmap, but a memory. A living memory. A voice that remembers something ancient.
Stephanie’s teachers knew this unraveling was coming, and they chose to pass their wisdom on—not just to be preserved, but practiced.
So if your heart is heavy with what’s falling apart…Or if you’re longing for practices of wholeness that don’t look away…This conversation is for you.
We explore:
Learning as Listening — as a survival skill for times of great change
The Four Step Path — a wayfinding process for navigating disruption
5 Key Emotions — signals to guide and sustain us through what feels impossible
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Click here to download a printable version of The Four Step Path.
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May it be a compass when the path curves, a breath when the moment tugs, a quiet guide to help you arrive—again and again—where you already are.
If you feel called, I’d love to hear what stirred in you as you listened…
What lingers?
What stories or signals came alive?
What are you learning at your edge?
Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments below.
Thanks for traveling this spiral with me. The path isn’t linear. And luckily, we don’t need to walk it alone.
With grace,
Laureen
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